Canadian Real Estate Investing in 2026: Cash Flow, AI, and Where Smart Investors Are Looking Now

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: October 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guests: Nick Karadza, co-founder of Rock Star Real Estate

There was a time when Canadian real estate investing felt simple. 

Buy a good property, rent it out, refinance when values rose, and repeat. For years, that playbook worked for a lot of investors. 

But that is not the market we are in today. 

In my recent conversation with Nick Karadza, co-founder of Rock Star Real Estate, the theme that kept coming up was uncertainty. Investors are still interested. They still know they should be doing something. But many are hesitating because the broader economy feels unclear. 

Nick hears it from investors, business owners, contractors, and people inside his own network. There are quotes out there. There are conversations happening. There is interest. But when it comes time to make a major commitment, many people are saying, “not right now.” 

That hesitation makes sense. Real estate is not as liquid as a stock portfolio. You cannot click a button and sell a duplex if you suddenly want your capital back. So in a choppy economy, investors are naturally being more selective. 

But selective does not mean inactive. 

Opportunity has not disappeared. It has changed. 

One of the biggest takeaways from the conversation is that opportunity is still there, but investors need to look at the right fundamentals. 

Nick talked about how, twenty years ago, Hamilton made sense because the numbers worked. Prices were lower than Toronto, rents made sense relative to the purchase price, and it was reasonable to expect spillover demand as people were priced farther out of the GTA. 

At the time, some people thought investing in Hamilton was crazy. Today, many of those same fundamentals are showing up in different ways: small development, infill, secondary suites, garden suites, and student rentals near strong schools. 

The market is no longer about buying anything and hoping appreciation bails you out. It is about finding where demand is durable, where rents are real, where the numbers are conservative, and where the asset can survive if the market grinds sideways. 

Cash flow is back in focus 

For a long time, many investors became used to making money from refinancing, rapid appreciation, and short-term gains. Nick’s view is that those days are likely gone for the foreseeable future. 

That does not mean real estate is dead. It means the old-school fundamentals matter again. 

Can the property pay for itself over time? Can tenants help reduce the mortgage? Is the rent supported by real demand? Are there multiple exits if the original plan changes? 

Nick described this as owning a self-liquidating asset. It may not be sexy. It may not produce a six-month home run. But if the property covers its expenses, pays down debt, and benefits from long-term appreciation, the math can still be compelling. 

The everyday investor still has options 

Not everyone wants to become a developer. Not everyone wants to tear down a house and build townhomes. And not everyone should. 

But Nick pointed out that investors do not have to play at that level to find opportunity. Smaller projects can still work: adding a basement suite, adding a garden suite, buying a single-family property that cash flows modestly, or buying a student rental near a strong university with durable demand. 

Student rentals came up as a particularly interesting example. Some investors are nervous because of the drop in international student enrollment. But Nick made an important distinction: the biggest impact is being felt by secondary and tertiary colleges that relied heavily on international student growth. Established schools such as McMaster, Western, and Queen’s are a different conversation. 

As always, it comes down to the specific property, the specific market, the quality of the housing, and the investor’s ability to manage the risk. 

AI is now part of the investor toolkit 

The conversation also moved beyond real estate into AI, business, and how quickly the world is changing. 

Nick’s view is that AI is like the internet or online banking in the early days. Some people resisted it. Some people did not understand it. But over time, the people who learned how to use it gained a major advantage. 

The warning is not to outsource your thinking. AI can summarize, research, prepare, and automate. But investors still need judgment. They still need to verify numbers. They still need to understand the assumptions behind the answer. 

The real goal is still freedom 

One of the reasons Nick’s Your Life, Your Terms philosophy resonates is because it is not really about real estate for real estate’s sake. Real estate is a vehicle. Investing is a vehicle. Business is a vehicle. 

The goal is to build a life with more control, more options, and more resilience. 

That is why the conversation covered more than just properties. It touched on macroeconomics, AI, community, health, estate planning, jurisdictional risk, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who are actively figuring things out. 

In weird times, isolation is expensive. Good information, good people, and clear thinking matter more than ever. 

Listen Here:

What Canada’s Most Connected Real Estate Investors Are Seeing Right Now 

A market driven by uncertainty 

Canadian investors are interested, but many remain hesitant to make large commitments. Nick argues that investors should stop waiting for perfect certainty and instead evaluate probabilities, local demand and downside protection. 

Cash flow matters again 

The episode returns repeatedly to self-liquidating assets, conservative assumptions and holding periods long enough for tenants to reduce mortgage debt. The goal is not a quick refinance. It is an asset that can survive different market conditions. 

Opportunity is local and strategy-specific 

Secondary suites, garden suites, infill development and student rentals can still work, but not everywhere. Nick emphasizes established schools, durable employment, realistic rents, appraisal support and multiple exit strategies. 

Why Nick’s perspective carries weight 

Rock Star Real Estate serves more than 1,000 paying members across Canada, giving Nick visibility into live investor decisions and local market conditions. The community’s longevity also provides context across multiple real estate cycles. 

AI is changing investor operations 

AI can accelerate research, meeting recall and repetitive business tasks. The episode also warns investors to verify AI-generated numbers and preserve independent judgment. 

Join the conversation in Mississauga 

The Your Life, Your Terms Event takes place Saturday, October 17, from 8:15 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. in Mississauga, Ontario. Erwin Szeto will be speaking, and event details are available at YourLifeYourTermsEvent.com. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/What-Canadas-Most-Connected-Real-Estate-Investors-Are-Seeing-Right-Now–Nick-Karadza-e3q2t6r 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/38cdece2-4274-4858-90ae-498868e2f98e/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-what-canadas-most-connected-real-estate-investors-are-seeing-right-now–nick-karadza?ref=dm_sh_oBJLQYHuq9rp1JSXjlVBVl6d8 

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/what-canadas-most-connected-real-estate-investors-

Register for the Next Zero Down Wealth Strategy Events

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We’ll walk through how investment loans, segregated funds, and proper planning can help qualified investors use leverage more strategically while keeping their long-term goals in focus.

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer:

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies referenced in this post are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence.


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

Toronto’s Missing-Middle Opportunity: How One Bungalow Became Four Homes

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: September 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guests: Daniel Zimberoff, founder of DEZ Management Corp and  Ming Lim, managing partner of Volition Properties

Toronto’s housing market has a problem. 

For decades, buyers have been forced to choose between an increasingly expensive detached house and a small condominium unit in a high-rise tower. 

But what if there was another option? 

That is the question Daniel Zimberoff and Ming Lim explore through condominiumized missing-middle housing. Their Harvie Townhomes project transforms one Toronto bungalow lot into four separately titled, family-sized homes that can be sold or financed individually. 

The Missing Middle Problem 

Many housing experts describe Toronto’s shortage as a “missing middle” crisis. 

The city has plenty of detached homes and plenty of condo towers. 

What it lacks are housing options in between. 

Families often want homes that offer: 

  • More living space 
  • Ground-level access 
  • Home offices 
  • Outdoor space 
  • Walkable neighbourhoods 
  • Transit access 

Unfortunately, most newly built condominiums prioritize smaller high-rise units, often located on busy corridors, because they are easier for developers to zone, sell, and finance. 

From One House to Four Homes 

The Harvie Townhomes project began with a bungalow purchased for approximately $800,000. The property was redeveloped into three townhomes plus a garden suite, creating four ownership opportunities where one home previously existed. 

The completed homes range from approximately 1,200 to 1,400 square feet and include features more commonly associated with custom homes than traditional condominiums. 

Why Investors Are Paying Attention 

For years, investors flocked to purpose-built rental developments. 

Today, some investors are rethinking that strategy. 

Rising complexity, rent regulation, tenant issues, and longer hold periods have encouraged many investors to explore alternatives. Condominiumized missing-middle housing offers a different model: build the homes, sell them individually, recycle the capital, and move on to the next project. 

Quality Matters 

One key theme throughout the discussion was construction quality. 

The project uses design choices intended to reduce noise transfer between units, create warmer basements with insulated concrete forms, and deliver a living experience that feels closer to a single-family home than a traditional condominium. 

The Bottom Line 

Harvie Townhomes may represent more than a single development. 

It demonstrates how missing-middle housing can create attainable ownership opportunities while giving investors a viable alternative to traditional rental housing strategies. 

If Toronto hopes to improve housing affordability while supporting more family-friendly ownership options, projects like these may become increasingly important over the next decade. 

To learn more about the Harvie Townhomes project and the emerging opportunity in condominiumized missing-middle housing, listen to the full episode. 

Toronto Missing Middle Housing FAQ 

1. What is missing middle housing? 

Missing middle housing refers to housing types between detached homes and high-rise condos, including duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes, and townhomes. 

2. What is condominiumization? 

Condominiumization is the process of creating separately owned units within a multi-unit property using a condominium ownership structure. 

3. What is a walk-up condominium? 

A walk-up condominium is a ground-oriented home with a private entrance that functions more like a townhouse than a traditional condo tower unit. 

4. How many homes were created in the Harvie Townhomes project? 

The project transformed one bungalow lot into four homes using a triplex plus garden suite design. 

5. Why are investors interested in condominiumized multiplexes? 

They provide a potential alternative to long-term landlording while creating multiple saleable homes from a single development. 

6. How large are the Harvie Townhomes units? 

The homes range from roughly 1,200 to 1,400 square feet. 

7. What was the acquisition cost for the project? 

The development site was acquired for approximately $800,000. 

8. What was the construction budget? 

The build budget was approximately $2 million. 

9. Why are many buyers seeking alternatives to condo towers? 

Many families want more space, private entrances, outdoor space, and a living environment that feels closer to a detached home. 

10. Why could missing middle housing become more common in Toronto? 

Recent policy changes, affordability challenges, and growing demand for family-sized urban housing are encouraging more developers to explore these projects. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/One-800k-Bungalow-Became-Four-Houses-Worth-4-5M–NO-Tenants-e3pot2l 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/aee6b35b-b7f7-4f71-b361-42d220fed1fd/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-one-800k-bungalow-became-four-houses-worth-45m–no-tenants?ref=dm_sh_5wYwWGwL8BplCkFExZ4Bp9T8s 

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/one-%24800k-bungalow-became-four-houses-worth-%244-5m-no-tenants/id1100488294?i=1000793244644 

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0HLYBT3SM?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp 

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer:

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies referenced in this post are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence.


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

Investing for the New AI Generation With Only 25% Down Payment? 

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: September 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Sadaf Chowdhury, Director of Investment Sales at Equitable

Investing for the New AI Generation With Only 25% Down Payment? 

Canadian investors understand the power of a down payment because they have used mortgages to buy real estate for generations. In this episode, I sit down with Sadaf Chowdhury to discuss whether an investment loan with a 25% down payment may help suitable investors build wealth through professionally managed stock funds in the new AI economy. 

Why Investors Are Looking Beyond Rentals 

Many Canadian investors already have significant exposure to local real estate. Higher operating costs, tenant challenges, property maintenance and natural-disaster risk are encouraging some families to consider more passive investment options. That does not make real estate obsolete, but it can make diversification more important. 

What Does 25% Down Mean? 

The strategy discussed uses an investment loan in which a qualified investor contributes 25% and borrows the balance. It is not available or appropriate for everyone. Approval, interest rates, payment terms and performance are not guaranteed, and suitability depends on income, cash flow, risk tolerance and goals. 

Professionally Managed Stock Funds and Estate Planning 

Sadaf explains how professionally managed stock funds offered through an insurance contract may include death benefit guarantees, beneficiary designations and annuity settlement options. The exact legal, tax and estate results depend on the contract and personal circumstances. 

Why AI Changes the Investing Conversation 

AI is not limited to chatbots. The investment theme can extend across semiconductors, cloud computing, data centres, software and robotics. Rapid change may create opportunity, but it can also increase volatility and the difficulty of selecting individual winners. 

Bottom Line 

Investing for the new AI generation is not simply about buying AI stocks. It is about building a plan that combines suitable financing, professional management, diversification and the ability to remain invested through market cycles. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

The session will explain zero or 25% down investment-loan strategies, how prudent leverage may accelerate wealth building, and why suitability, cash flow and risk tolerance matter. 

Educational purposes only. This is not individualized investment, tax or legal advice. Approval and performance are not guaranteed. Historical or simulated results do not predict future performance. 

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday September 12th, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday, September 15th – 8:00pm ET.

Quick Answers: AI Investing With a 25% Down Payment 

Can Canadians invest with a 25% down payment? 

A qualified investor may be able to use an investment loan that requires a 25% contribution. Approval and suitability depend on the lender and the investor’s finances. 

What is 25% Down on the Stock Market? 

It is TAFI’s name for an investment-loan strategy where an investor contributes 25% and borrows the balance for professionally managed stock funds. 

Is an investment loan the same as a margin account? 

No. Payment rules, collateral terms and liquidation rights can differ, so the specific agreement must be reviewed. 

What are professionally managed stock funds? 

They pool investor money in portfolios selected and monitored by professional managers. Some are offered through insurance contracts with estate-planning features. 

How does AI affect investing? 

AI creates potential opportunities across chips, cloud infrastructure, software, data centres and robotics. It also creates volatility and makes professional research important. 

Who may be suited to an investment loan? 

It may be a fit for someone with stable income, strong cash flow, a long time horizon and comfort with market declines. 

Do investment loans guarantee better returns? 

No. Borrowing magnifies outcomes, and neither approval nor investment performance is guaranteed. 

Can these investments create income? 

Investors may take profits or withdrawals over time, but available income depends on market performance and the financial plan. 

How can these funds support estate planning? 

Certain insurance contracts may include beneficiary designations, death benefit guarantees and settlement options. Terms vary by contract and circumstances. 

Why are Canadians investing beyond real estate? 

Some investors want greater diversification and fewer responsibilities related to tenants, maintenance and property operations. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/Investing-for-the-New-AI-Generation-With-Only-25-Down-Payment-e3of8r4

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/52564ba8-ee7d-4af4-90af-64af4fe72775/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-investing-for-the-new-ai-generation-with-only-25-down-payment

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/investing-for-the-new-ai-generation-with-only-25/id1100488294?i=1000788462140

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0HJ5Y72KY?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer:

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies referenced in this post are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence.


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

Turning a 22-Foot Lot Into 5 Units: Victoria Suen on the Missing Middle, and What It Actually Costs to Build One

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: September 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest Host: Cherry Chan, CPA

Guest: Victoria Suen, Founder, BuildEx Design

This episode is a bit different. My wife and business partner, Cherry Chan, sat down with this week’s guest for her own channel, Real Estate Tax Tips, and the conversation covered ground I wanted every TAFI listener to hear. Consider this a crossover. 

Victoria Suen bought her first investment property in 2011, in Mississauga, at 19 years old. She couldn’t qualify for a mortgage on her own, so her sisters signed for it and she came in as a part investor, contributing the money. The property cost $260,000. She calls it beginner’s luck. It might have been. But 16 years later, she’s a licensed architect and the founder of BuildEx Design, and she’s turned that early real estate interest into a firm that helps investors do exactly what she once needed a mortgage for: build wealth on a piece of land. 

What Victoria’s firm does now is different from a typical architecture practice. BuildEx works almost exclusively with what’s called the missing middle, and Cherry asked her to define it from scratch. 

What Is the Missing Middle, and Why Did It Disappear 

For most of a city’s history, housing came in 2 extremes: single family homes in the suburbs, and high rise condo towers downtown. The middle ground, duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes, and mid-rise apartments, mostly stopped getting built. Not because nobody wanted it. Because zoning stopped allowing it. 

That’s changing. Victoria’s explanation is straightforward: continuing to sprawl outward means more roads, more schools, more fire stations, and more water servicing, all for the same number of people. Cities like Tokyo, New York, and London never built that way. They grew inward instead. Canadian cities are now doing the same thing, loosening zoning rules that used to require a single family home on every lot. 

22 Feet Wide, 5 Units: What Toronto Allows Now 

The specifics surprised even Cherry. In Toronto, Victoria’s team is designing buildings on lots as tight as 22 feet wide by 120 feet deep, and fitting 5 units on them. Nine wards in the city now allow up to 6 units with no special permission required, as long as the building fits the lot through standard setback rules. 

There’s no parking requirement in Toronto for these projects, which is what makes the density possible in the first place. Victoria still asks every client whether their tenants will realistically need a parking spot, because building without it in the wrong location backfires at lease-up. Ottawa is going further: the city is eliminating its parking requirement entirely, effective September 2026. 

The 3 Moving Parts Investors Get Wrong 

Victoria breaks a missing middle project into 3 questions that all move at once: what can be built on the land, what it costs, and who will finance it. That means coordinating an architect, a general contractor, and a mortgage broker simultaneously, and Victoria says getting all 3 people pointed in the same direction is often the hardest part of a first project. BuildEx now offers a feasibility service specifically to solve that coordination problem before a client commits. 

From design to permits typically takes about 5 months. Construction runs another 10 to 12 months. All in, Victoria tells clients to budget a year to a year and a half, assuming no surprises. 

CMHC’s MLI Select: Where the Real Money Is 

The financing detail that stood out most: a fourplex plus a garden suite, 5 units total, or a 6-plex, qualifies for CMHC’s MLI Select program. That unlocks 2 things. First, waived development charges, which Victoria puts at $50,000 to $80,000 per unit. On a 5 unit project, that’s $250,000 or more the city simply doesn’t collect. Second, more favorable financing terms than a conventional commercial mortgage. 

On loan-to-value, Victoria was careful to correct a number that gets thrown around: while MLI Select theoretically allows up to 95% loan-to-value, she says almost none of her actual clients get there. The rent numbers don’t support it. Most are landing at 80 to 85% loan-to-value against the appraised value, which still means an investor can put in perhaps $1 million to $1.5 million in construction costs on top of a $1 million lot, end up with a building appraised at $4 million to $5 million, and pull the majority of that capital back out through refinancing. Victoria’s typical client is left with roughly $100,000 still in the deal. 

This isn’t a flip. It’s a long-term hold, financed through a 5 or 10 year CMHC mortgage term, with most owners refinancing and holding rather than selling. 

The Mistake Investors Keep Making 

Ask Victoria for the most common error and she doesn’t point to construction cost. She points to rent. Investors project the top of the market, say $3,500 a month for a 3 bedroom unit, without checking whether tenants in that location will actually need a parking spot they don’t have. When the unit doesn’t rent at that number, it comes down, sometimes to $3,000, and at a 4% capitalization rate that $500 monthly gap moves the building’s valuation significantly. 

Cheaper Entry Points Exist Too 

Not every missing middle project needs to hit CMHC’s MLI Select thresholds. Victoria is seeing more investors buy properties for $600,000 in Toronto’s outskirts, or in Hamilton and Niagara, and do smaller duplex or triplex conversions that still cash flow without the scale of a full 5 or 6 unit build. 

What’s Behind the Walls 

The biggest renovation risk, in Victoria’s experience, is what you can’t see until demolition starts. On one project, her team planned to remove a roof and add stories, tying new construction into the existing foundation. Once the walls came down, the foundation turned out to be crumbling and had to be re-engineered from scratch, an unforeseen cost. New construction avoids that risk but comes with its own tradeoff: tearing down a century home means meeting current zoning in full, sometimes on a smaller footprint, and often requires shoring, temporary structural support to hold back the land when a new foundation goes in tight against a neighboring building. 

Why She Started Her Own Firm 

Cherry closed with a question that had nothing to do with zoning: why start a business at all, given the headaches Victoria had just spent 30 minutes describing? Victoria’s answer traced back to that 2011 property in Mississauga. She had an entrepreneurial itch that architecture school, and traditional architecture firms, didn’t make room for. Starting BuildEx let her combine the technical training with the business instincts she couldn’t exercise inside someone else’s practice. 

Her honest answer on the biggest surprise of running it: how much of the job is personal development. Whatever goes wrong in the business tends to trace back to her as the owner, whether she’s ready to admit that or not. 

Quick Answers 

What is the missing middle in housing? 

It’s the housing type between single family homes and high rise condos: duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes, and mid-rise buildings, which zoning rules stopped allowing for decades. 

How many units can you build on a Toronto lot? 

Some lots as narrow as 22 feet can fit 5 units. Nine wards in Toronto now allow up to 6 units with no special permission required, and there’s no parking requirement. 

What is CMHC MLI Select and why does it matter? 

It’s a CMHC financing program for projects of 5 or more units. It waives development charges, worth roughly $50,000 to $80,000 per unit, and offers more favorable financing terms than a conventional mortgage. 

How much capital do investors typically need to leave in a missing middle project? 

Victoria’s clients typically get 80 to 85% loan-to-value after refinancing, and are left with around $100,000 still invested in a project appraised at several million dollars.

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

Victoria’s path started with real estate, but this show has always been about more than one strategy. If you want to see how Cherry and I think about building a second wealth engine alongside — or instead of — property, join me live

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday September 12th, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday, September 15th – 8:00pm ET.

The Bottom Line 

I didn’t record this one. Cherry did, and I’m glad she brought it back to TAFI. Victoria’s story starts the same way a lot of ours did, a first property bought too young to qualify for the mortgage herself, and ends somewhere none of us could have predicted from that starting point: a firm helping other investors do the same thing at a scale and financing structure that didn’t exist when she started. 

The missing middle is one more example of what this show is about now. Not just rentals. Every legitimate path that gets someone out of the rat race, including the one where you learn to read a zoning bylaw.

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/Turning-a-22-Foot-Lot-Into-5-Units–Victoria-Suen-e3o4l1k

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/4348163c-087f-4e4c-82e1-755a6efdb72d/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-turning-a-22-foot-lot-into-5-units-victoria-suen

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/turning-a-22-foot-lot-into-5-units-victoria-suen/id1100488294?i=1000787179079

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0HHF7J7YR?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer:

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies referenced in this post are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence.


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

He Exited His Ontario Real Estate & Podcast To Build REI Businesses | Andrew Hines 

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: July 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Andrew Hines, co-founder of multiple US-based real estate acquisition companies, owner of Grotto Getaway, former host of The Andrew Hines Real Estate Investing Podcast.

Andrew Hines spent 5 and a half years building one of Canada’s top 3 real estate podcasts, alongside the host’s own show and Break Through Podcast. The Andrew Hines Real Estate Investing Podcast reached nearly 1.3 million downloads. Then, in 2023, at what looked from the outside like its peak, Andrew shut it down. 

He joined Erwin on The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians to explain why, and to talk about what he built next: a US-based real estate business spanning house flips, land flips, and creative finance deals across Florida, Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, and Tennessee, plus Grotto Getaway, a glamping and cottage resort near Tobermory, Ontario, that did $655,000 in sales last year. 

Why He Walked Away From the Podcast 

For the first 2 and a half years, growth was steady, roughly 33% year over year. Meetups regularly drew 100 to 110 people on a random Wednesday night. Then interest rates rose. Guests stopped returning messages. By April 2023, one meetup that used to draw a full room pulled in 70 to 80 people, a noticeable drop, and interest kept falling from there. 

Andrew’s second son was due that November. He made the call to end the podcast in August, recorded a final episode 2 days later, and stepped away. 

Andrew hasn’t ruled out doing more, and he’s released occasional US investing episodes since, but the daily grind of the format was costing him money and had stopped being fun. He credits Erwin and Sarah Larbi with continuing to push through the same headwinds. 

Selling Everything in Ontario 

Andrew’s Ontario portfolio was built around student rentals in London, Ontario, in a neighborhood locally known as Soho. In 2015, he bought a single detached house there for $105,000, the cheapest property he owned. His student rental buys ran around $200,000, and additions expanded them to 900 to 1,100 square feet, pushing their value up to roughly $600,000. 

After the 2020 lockdowns, Andrew started rethinking his exposure. He loved student rentals from a management standpoint, but he saw a long-term risk in combining that asset class with the government’s willingness to shut things down. so, he decided Canada wasn’t going to be his long-term investing home, and he sold off the portfolio gradually, redirecting the capital into new construction in Cape Coral, Florida, and into Grotto Getaway. 

Andrew and his family are now in the process of establishing US tax residency, a move he’s discussing with his accountant. 

Building the US Business 

Andrew’s team runs 2 parallel businesses: house and land flips, and a course teaching Canadians how to do the same. Acquisitions agents work inbound seller leads generated through cold calling, Meta ads, and direct mail. Independent contractor realtors help close deals. A project manager and part-time admin round out the flipping side. 

His team finds motivated sellers using public US data unavailable in Canada, including tax liens, mechanics liens (any lien from a contractor, not just an auto mechanic), and notices of pending foreclosure. One core target group: tired landlords. 

Two deals from the conversation stand out. In Morrow, Georgia, Andrew’s team bought a rundown property for $95,000. Their realtor said she had to shower after walking through it. An $82,000 renovation, mostly cosmetic with no major mechanical work, brought it to market, and it sold to an investor for $237,000. 

In Jacksonville, Florida, his team bought a 47-acre parcel of land from a motivated seller who had originally purchased it for his daughter’s development plans. They spent just $5,000 clearing junk from the site, held it for about 20 days, and sold it for $478,000. No hammer, no plumber, no utility company calls. Profit: $163,000. 

Andrew is careful to note that deal isn’t typical. He estimates his team lands something in that range roughly once every other year. 

Why Ontario Real Estate, But Not US Real Estate 

Andrew has no interest in buying residential real estate in Ontario again. In the US, he still buys residential, both for flips and for the occasional subject-to deal his team can’t say no to. The difference, he says, comes down to landlord protections. Landlord-friendly US states can move a non-paying tenant out in a couple of months. In Ontario, that same process can take years. 

Construction economics tell a similar story. In 2023, Andrew’s team was building new construction in Cape Coral for roughly $105 per square foot in hard costs. Ontario hard costs at the same time ran $200 to $250 per square foot. He estimates Florida costs today sit closer to $125 per square foot, still a fraction of what a comparable garden suite costs to build in Ontario. 

The New Rules for Real Estate Investors 

Andrew’s read on the current market: the era of buying a cheap duplex, refinancing a year later, and repeating the cycle into a multi-million-dollar portfolio is over. What’s still alive is entrepreneurship. He describes his own flipping business less as real estate investing and more as marketing and business building. 

His advice for investors deciding what to do next: don’t go into anything expecting it to be passive from day 1. Build toward passive. Delegate the repetitive parts. Understand the value of your own time. Real estate investors, he says, were always small business owners. The difference now is the down payment isn’t the only thing standing between you and the work. 

Grotto Getaway: A Business Built for a Different Kind of Guest 

Away from real estate, Andrew owns Grotto Getaway, a glamping and cottage resort near Tobermory, Ontario. It started with prospector-style bell tents costing $10,000 to $12,000 to install. The property is zoned for 70 sites. Andrew’s team has developed 30 of them so far. 

Last year, Grotto Getaway did $655,000 in sales, roughly 60% growth over the year before, and that was before the property’s amenities even opened. A single unit typically pays for itself in its first year and generates $20,000 to $25,000 annually once stabilized. 

Direct bookings account for 60% to 70% of reservations, sparing the business the 16% to 19% commission charged by platforms like Airbnb, Booking.com, and VRBO. Google reviews sit at 4.8 out of 5 stars. One older trailer, bought for $7,800 and renovated for roughly $10,000, has generated about $25,000 a year for 4 straight years. 

The business runs heavily on Instagram, including collaborations with local influencers and occasional giveaways, one of which generated over 1 million views and 45,000 comments. The team currently employs 11 people, with more hiring planned for the summer season, including free trailer accommodation for seasonal staff. 

Andrew also notes a recent tailwind: shifting Canadian travel sentiment away from the US has driven more domestic bookings to Grotto Getaway, even as the same exchange rate dynamics raise his Florida construction costs. 

Frequently Asked Questions 

Why did Andrew Hines shut down his real estate podcast? Guest interest and listenership both dropped sharply starting in 2023. Andrew made the call in August 2023 and recorded his final episode 2 days later. 

Does Andrew Hines still own real estate in Ontario? No. He sold his entire student rental portfolio in London, Ontario, after reassessing his risk tolerance following the 2020 lockdowns. 

What states does Andrew Hines invest in? His team operates primarily in Florida, Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, and Tennessee, with land business expansion underway in Alabama. 

What is Grotto Getaway? A glamping and cottage resort near Tobermory, Ontario, that did $655,000 in sales last year with a team of 11. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

The complete $100,000 investment loan structure

The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years

Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%

How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio

Register Here: Saturday, September 12th Hybrid: Inperson and Zoom

The Bottom Line 

Andrew Hines didn’t wait for Ontario real estate to work again. He read the shift in landlord protections, construction costs, and government risk, and he moved his capital and his business model somewhere friendlier to both. His podcast didn’t survive the same shift in Canadian real estate sentiment that’s driving TAFI’s own rebrand, but his business did, because he stopped treating real estate as something to hold and started treating it as something to build. 

For investors weighing whether to keep waiting on Ontario rents to catch up, or to build something new instead, Andrew’s answer is clear: this is the age of the business builder, not the passive landlord. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/He-Exited-His-Ontario-Real-Estate–Podcast-To-Build-REI-Businesses–Andrew-Hines-e3m0uf8 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/2809787f-ba8c-46cf-9da3-5b1f079f304a/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-he-exited-his-ontario-real-estate-podcast-to-build-rei-businesses-andrew-hines

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/he-exited-his-ontario-real-estate-podcast-to-build/id1100488294?i=1000776584753

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0H8PSNDJZ?

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer:

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies referenced in this post are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence.


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

The 3:1 Investment Loan: How Real Estate Investors Are Building Wealth Without Tenants

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: June 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Mozzie Chleilat, Account Manager Business Development, DUCA Specialized Lending

Real estate investors understand leverage better than almost anyone. You put 20% down, the bank funds the rest, and you build equity while someone else pays the mortgage. It’s one of the most powerful wealth-building tools ever invented. 

But ask most Ontario landlords right now how they feel about the Landlord Tenant Board, and you’ll get a very different answer than you would have gotten in 2015. 

Rent control. Anti-renoviction bylaws. Vacancy costs. Property management fees that assume a tenant who actually pays. The passive income promise has become an active management job for most investors, and the economics have shifted enough that many are quietly looking for a different path. 

That path exists. It uses the same leverage principle that built wealth in real estate, applied to the stock market instead. No tenants, tribunals and 2 a.m. calls. And as of June 2026, Erwin Szeto sat down with Mozzie Chleilat from DUCA Specialized Lending to explain exactly how it works from the lender’s side. 

What Is the 3:1 Investment Loan? 

The investment loan is a leveraged lending product designed for investors who want exposure to professionally managed stock funds without putting up the full capital themselves. At DUCA, the structure is called the 3:1 loan: the client funds 25% of the investment as equity, and DUCA loans the remaining 75%. 

In practice, it works like this. A client deposits $25,000 into a non-registered Equitable Life segregated fund account. DUCA lends $75,000 against that deposit. The client now has $100,000 invested, and all growth above that $100,000 belongs to them. They service the $75,000 loan at prime plus 0.75%, interest only. If the investment grows and the client wants to exit, they pay DUCA back and keep the rest. 

The loan minimum is $50,000, which requires $16,667 of client equity. The maximum within the limited underwriting program is $1,000,000 personal and $1,000,000 corporate, meaning a couple with a holding company could access up to $2,000,000 in combined investment loans without full financial underwriting. 

How to Qualify: Significantly Easier Than a Mortgage 

The most striking feature of this product, for anyone who has tried to qualify for a new mortgage as a real estate investor, is how simple the approval process is for loans up to $1,000,000. 

Within the limited underwriting program, DUCA does not require income documents or financial statements. The approval criteria are a clean credit bureau, no legal suits, judgments, or collection items, and a credit score of at least 650. That’s it. No T4, no NOA, no rental income schedule. 

For investors who want above $1,000,000, or who prefer full underwriting, the TDSR maximum is 44%, and DUCA counts 90% of gross rental income toward that calculation. The major banks typically count 50%. For a real estate investor with significant rental income, that difference can be the gap between qualifying and not qualifying. 

There is also a net worth qualification pathway. Investors who cannot meet TDSR requirements because of complex income situations, which describes a significant number of long-term real estate investors, can qualify by showing net worth of 1.5 times the loan amount with a reasonable liquid component to service the interest. 

DUCA Does Not Report This Loan to Credit Bureaus 

DUCA does not report the investment loan as a trade line item on the client’s credit bureau. The loan will appear as a secured item if a lender pulls a very detailed bureau, but it carries no balance history and no payment history. In practical terms, for most future lending scenarios, it does not affect the client’s ability to qualify for additional mortgages. 

For a real estate investor still looking to acquire property in Canada or the U.S., this is a meaningful feature. The debt is there, but it is not visible the way a personal loan or car payment would be. 

The Soft Margin Breach Program 

The most common objection to any leveraged investment strategy is the margin call risk. If the market drops sharply and the portfolio value falls toward or below the loan balance, what happens? 

Erwin shared his own experience on this. During COVID, he held AMD shares on margin with a different lender. When the position hit its threshold, there was no phone call and no email. The shares were liquidated overnight without warning. That stock has since gone up roughly 10 times from the price he owned it at. 

DUCA’s approach is explicitly different. The program is described internally as a soft margin breach program. At 90 to 95% loan-to-value, DUCA contacts the client to give advance notice that the account is approaching a threshold. If the loan-to-value reaches 100%, the client has 30 days to either add cash to bring the balance back down to 99% loan-to-value, or move to a principal and interest payment for 3 months to pay down the loan. If the market recovers during that window, the breach resolves itself. 

DUCA does not call loans. They work with clients through difficult markets, not against them. 

The Right Investor Profile 

This product is not for everyone. Mozzie is direct about that. The right client has a long-term investment horizon, meaning they are comfortable holding through market volatility without checking the account balance daily. They have sufficient cash flow to service the interest comfortably. They have a high risk tolerance, meaning they understand that leverage magnifies both gains and losses. And they are the kind of investor who sees a market dip as a buying opportunity rather than a reason to sell. 

The investor profile that maps almost perfectly to this is a Canadian real estate investor who has used leverage for years and understands the principle intuitively. They already know what it means to put 20% down and let the asset grow. They already know how to sit through corrections. The difference is that this version of leverage has no tenants, no repairs, no legal hearings, and no exposure to Ontario rent control. 

The Simple Math 

Erwin put the comparison plainly during the conversation. A client can put 25% down in real estate, where the asset has historically grown 5 to 7% per year. Or they can put 25% down in a professionally managed stock fund, where the underlying market has historically grown over 10% per year, net of fees. Both use leverage. Both use the bank’s money. Only one comes with a tenant. 

For investors who are already 80 to 90% allocated to Ontario real estate, diversifying into a leveraged stock fund position is not abandoning real estate. It is adding a different kind of asset to the mix, one that is more liquid, more passive, and historically has a higher expected return on equity. 

How to Connect with Mozzie and DUCA Specialized Lending 

Mozzie Chleilat is an Account Manager Business Development at DUCA Specialized Lending. He can be reached directly at mchleilat@duca.com or by phone at 416-460-0250. His colleagues Michelle Gervais and the broader DUCA Specialized Lending team at duca.com/specializedlending handle investment loan inquiries across Canada. 

For investors who want to understand whether this strategy is appropriate for their situation, including whether they qualify and how to structure the 25% equity component, the starting point is a conversation with a licensed advisor who works with this product. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Register Here: Tuesday July 7, Zoom only — 8:00pm ET

Frequently Asked Questions 

What is the minimum investment for a DUCA 3:1 investment loan? 

The minimum loan is $50,000, which requires the client to deposit $16,667 of their own equity into the segregated fund account. 

Does the DUCA investment loan affect my credit score or mortgage qualifying? 

DUCA does not report the loan as a trade line item on the credit bureau. It may appear as a secured item, but it carries no balance or payment history. In most cases, it does not materially affect the ability to qualify for additional mortgages. 

What happens if the stock market drops significantly? 

DUCA operates a soft margin breach program. If the loan-to-value approaches 100%, DUCA gives the client 30 days notice and options: add cash, make principal and interest payments for 3 months, or wait for the market to recover. DUCA does not call loans. 

How does rental income affect qualifying for this loan? 

DUCA counts 90% of gross rental income toward the total debt service ratio for loans above $1,000,000. The major banks typically count 50%. This makes a material difference for investors with significant rental income. 

Is this strategy right for everyone? 

No. This product is designed for investors with a long-term investment horizon, sufficient cash flow to service interest comfortably, a high risk tolerance, and comfort with leverage. Anyone considering this strategy should speak with a licensed advisor to assess suitability. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/The-31-Investment-Loan-for-Real-Estate-Investors–Mozzie-Chleilat–DUCA-e3lnd9l 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/ae848745-e729-434c-9976-62acdb5d8a6d/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-the-3-1-investment-loan-for-real-estate-investors-mozzie-chleilat-duca

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-3-1-investment-loan-for-real-estate-investors/id1100488294?i=1000775649688

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0H7SLPP27?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer: 

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am a licensed insurance advisor with Open Concept Financial Group and an advisor working with DUCA Specialized Lending. I earn income when clients engage with the investment loan program described in this post. The investment loan strategies discussed are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Fund performance figures referenced are simulated returns based on the underlying fund’s historical data, adjusted for segregated fund fees, as of May 31, 2026. Past performance does not predict future results. Suitability depends on individual income, cash flow, risk tolerance, and goals. Every investor should do their own due diligence and speak with a licensed advisor before making any investment decisions. 


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

He Worked 60 Hours a Week for 25 Years. Then He Installed a System and Sold for an 8-Figure Exit.

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: June 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Byron Darlison, Founder Rise Vision, Certified Metronomics Coach, Accelerator Coach EO Toronto

He Worked 60 Hours a Week for 25 Years. Then He Installed a System and Sold for an 8-Figure Exit.

Byron Darlison on Business Operating Systems, the Great Wealth Transfer, and What Financial Independence Actually Looks Like.

Byron Darlison started Rise Vision in Toronto in 1992. He ran it for 30 years without raising a dollar of outside equity. For 25 of those years, he worked 60-plus-hour weeks, watched the business oscillate between good years and terrible years, and never fully understood what was making it unpredictable. 

In year 25, he hired a business coach and installed Metronomics as his operating system. In the 5 years that followed, profits went from break-even to 20% sustained net margins. Revenue growth went from low single digits to 15 to 20% per year. His personal work week dropped from 60-plus hours to under 10. He promoted his COO to run the company and stepped back to chairperson. In year 30, he sold Rise Vision to AUO Display Plus for an 8-figure exit, with no earn-out and no employment clause. His team still runs and grows the business today. 

He now coaches a small number of founders privately using Metronomics and serves as Mentorship Chair and Accelerator Coach at Entrepreneurs’ Organization Toronto. He publishes free frameworks, AI prompts, and tools at darlison.com. 

This is a conversation about what it actually takes to build a business that works without you, why most founders never get there, and why the next decade may be the best buying opportunity for small businesses in Canadian history. 

25 Years of Hard Work, Inconsistent Results 

Rise Vision did not start as a digital signage company. Byron spent years building software for Reuters to power LED screens on trading floors, then moved into banks, retail, and gradually what the industry started calling digital signage. For most of those years, the company was spread across 117 different industries. It had good years and bad years. The team was talented and deeply loyal, with some people staying more than 20 years. But consistency was elusive. 

Byron describes the dynamic bluntly: the team was exceptional at fighting fires. Nobody was in charge of fire prevention. There was no clear accountability structure, no defined priorities, and no rhythm that held the business to a standard quarter over quarter. 

He tried to fix it himself. He worked through Scaling Up, the Great Game of Business, Scrum, Basecamp, and lean startup principles. He spent a year attempting to self-implement a business operating system and made limited progress. Looking back, he identifies 4 reasons why it did not work. He was simultaneously the person building the accountability system and the person the system was supposed to hold accountable. When you are a player on the field, you cannot see the whole field. The team had watched him launch initiatives before and learned to wait them out. And without someone who had visibly done it before, there was nothing to counter the quiet skepticism that this time would be any different. 

What a Business Operating System Actually Is 

Byron defines a business operating system simply: a set of rituals at a specific cadence, captured in artifacts, that becomes religion. 

Not a framework you run for a quarter and then move on from. A rhythm that becomes so embedded that breaking it is unthinkable. Meetings that happen at the same time every week. Scorecards that are updated and reviewed in every session. Accountability structures where every person knows their domain, their critical number, and exactly what a good day looks like for them. 

The key insight he shares: the founder has to be the first to demonstrate the discipline. If the founder shows up late, everyone shows up late. If the founder skips meetings, everyone skips meetings. The system only works if the leader makes it non-negotiable for themselves first. 

For a company with a long history of operating in a loose way, he warns it takes about a year before the system starts to stick. The tell is when team members start self-correcting each other, saying we do not do it like that, we do it like this, before the founder has to say it. At that point, the organization has internalized the rhythm and it starts to compound. 

5 Years That Changed Everything 

The results Byron describes after installing Metronomics are specific and verifiable: 20% sustained net margins for 5 consecutive years, revenue growth of 15 to 20% per year, and a work week that dropped from 60-plus hours to under 10. Cash reserves built to many multiples of annual operating spend. 

At some point during this period, Byron realized something that very few founders are willing to admit: he was no longer the right person to be running the business day to day. His COO was. He promoted his COO to head of company, stepped back to coach the executive team, and found that running the business in under 10 hours a week, he was actually running it better than he ever had at 60. 

The return on the coaching investment, calculated conservatively over 5 years, was approximately 270 times its cost. 

How He Sold With No Earn-Out and No Employment Clause 

When Byron went to sell Rise Vision, the business was already operating without him in any active role. He was chairperson in name. The company had a proven operating system, predictable recurring revenue, a leadership team that ran and grew the business independently, and cash reserves exceeding a year of operating costs. 

That combination made the negotiating position straightforward. The company did not need to drop in revenue during a drawn-out acquisition process because Byron had no active role to distract from operations. He could devote full time to the negotiations without the business suffering. By the time the deal closed, revenue had grown by approximately 20% from where negotiations started. 

His advice for founders approaching an exit: the business needs to look like a machine to any acquirer. Predictable, self-running, not dependent on the founder. If it does, you can set your terms. If it does not, you are selling a job, and the buyer will price it accordingly. 

The Owner’s Outcome Framework 

One of the most practically useful frameworks Byron shares is what he calls the owner’s outcome: the exercise of getting precise about what you actually built the business to give you, before you make any strategic decision. 

He observes that most founders have a vague idea of freedom when they start, but never translate that into specific terms. How many hours do you want to work? What income do you need? What is your risk tolerance? What does your life look like at the 3-year mark if the business is working? 

Without that clarity, the business wanders. Every shiny object looks like an opportunity. Every crisis demands a response. There is no benchmark to measure whether the company is actually serving the founder’s goals or drifting away from them. 

This framework resonates particularly strongly in real estate. Erwin makes the connection in the conversation: he has coached real estate investors since 2010 and regularly encounters people whose stated why is more time with family, but who have bought a small business, in the form of a rental property, an hour from home, with a customer, the tenant, who has more rights than most business clients. The two do not reconcile. Byron’s response: they haven’t done the homework. 

The Definition of Strategy Is the Word No 

Byron’s framing of strategy is one of the cleanest distillations of the concept: if you know exactly what you want, 90% of what you see is noise by definition. Strategy is the discipline to say no to that noise, over and over, until what you are building becomes so specific and so well-understood that you win your market almost by default. 

Rise Vision’s pivot to K-12 digital signage in North America came from data, not instinct. After years of serving 117 different industries, the team looked at where the growth was consistent, where they won competitive deals, and where customers stayed forever. Education kept coming up. It was not glamorous. The procurement process was slow. The revenue per customer was not large. But the fit was undeniable. 

Focusing on that single market, with a single core customer, is what allowed the business to stop being spread across everything and start building genuine expertise. Once the product was built for one specific buyer, the sales and marketing costs dropped, the product team had clarity, and the competitive moat deepened every year. 

The Founder’s Dilemma 

Byron names the thing that kills most founder-led businesses before they ever reach an exit: the founder who is the hero. The one who jumps into every problem, gives the answer, and then wonders why the team never develops the capacity to solve problems without them. 

His reframe is simple and memorable. Instead of solving problems, ask: what do you recommend? Instead of giving the answer, ask by what date and how will you know it’s working? The goal is to make the person who owns the problem also own the solution, the measurement, and the learning. The founder becomes an editor and a mentor, not a firefighter. 

For anyone buying a business from a retiring founder, this is a critical due diligence signal. If the current owner is involved in everything, is the hero of every story, and cannot name a single decision the team makes without them, the buyer is not acquiring a business. They are acquiring a job. Byron puts the implication plainly: the team will not be able to independently execute once that founder exits. 

The Great Wealth Transfer and Why Boomer Businesses Are the Buying Opportunity 

Byron spent a day with Keith Cunningham, author of The Road Less Stupid, in Austin, and came away with a view he shares directly: there has never been an opportunity like this in our history. More businesses are coming up for sale right now than has ever happened before. Supply is high. Qualified buyers are scarce. Valuations reflect that. 

His sharper point is this: many of these businesses are badly run. Not terminal, not broken, but operating well below their potential because the founder never installed accountability, never defined a core customer, never built a system. That means the stated EBITDA is artificially low, the multiple is priced off that artificially low number, and a competent buyer who can install the missing infrastructure can earn back the purchase price in a fraction of the typical cycle. 

Cherry’s acquisition of a second accounting practice from 2 retiring owners in 2024 is a version of exactly this. The practice was well-established, the clients were loyal, and the owners were ready to exit. The opportunity came not despite the transition, but because of it. 

AI Running a 14-Agent Software Pipeline While Byron Sleeps 

Byron’s current project is a software development operation running entirely on AI agents. 14 agents, an orchestrator that manages the work queue, and a process where Byron tells the system what is in the backlog before he goes to bed and reviews the completed work at 6 a.m. The cost in human terms: approximately $300,000 a month in traditional development resources. His actual cost: a fraction of that. 

His advice for founders exploring AI: the one-off experiments are easy. Creating something reliable, scalable, and secure is not. The hard work is thinking through the architecture, defining the roles each agent plays, and building the methodology that makes the whole system trustworthy before you depend on it. 

He has published AI prompts on darlison.com that compress the time required to work through his core frameworks, including owner’s outcome, core customer analysis, and company values discovery, from days of consulting time to under an hour of structured AI-guided work. 

FAQ 

What is Rise Vision? 

Rise Vision is a cloud-based digital signage software company founded in Toronto in 1992 by Byron Darlison. It grew to serve organizations in over 100 countries, including schools, hotels, and universities. In 2022, it was acquired by AUO Display Plus, a Taiwanese industrial display manufacturer. 

What is Metronomics? 

Metronomics is a business operating system developed by Shannon Susko. It combines strategy, execution, and team alignment into a quarterly rhythm of meeting cadences, scorecards, and accountability structures. Byron Darlison used it to transform Rise Vision from a break-even company into a profitable, self-running business before selling. 

What is the owner’s outcome framework? 

The owner’s outcome is a framework Byron uses with every founder he coaches. It asks the founder to define precisely what they want their business to give them, in terms of income, hours, risk tolerance, and life design, before making any strategic decision. Without this clarity, businesses tend to drift toward whatever is urgent rather than whatever is important. 

What is the great wealth transfer and why does it matter for Canadian investors? 

Baby boomers own a massive number of privately held businesses in Canada. As they retire, those businesses need buyers. Because many of these businesses are poorly systemized and priced off artificially low earnings, buyers who can identify and fix the operational shortcomings can acquire businesses at significant discounts to their real earning potential. 

How is Byron using AI in his business? 

Byron is running a 14-agent AI software development pipeline from his home. He briefs the orchestrator each evening on the work backlog, the agents process tasks overnight, and he reviews output in the morning. He estimates the traditional human cost of equivalent output at approximately $300,000 per month. He has also published free AI-guided prompts at darlison.com for working through business frameworks. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above. It’s hybrid: in-person at the iWIN office in Oakville, or join on Zoom from anywhere.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday June 27, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday July 7, Zoom only — 8:00pm ET

The Bottom Line 

Byron Darlison spent 25 years running his company the hard way. Not because he was not smart, not because the team was not talented, but because he never installed the structure that would have let the business work without him carrying it. Once he did, everything changed: the margins, the growth rate, the work week, and ultimately the exit. 

The lesson is not specific to SaaS companies or digital signage or Toronto tech founders. It applies to any business, including real estate portfolios that have turned into jobs, rental operations that never scaled, and accounting practices changing hands in Ottawa. The question underneath all of it is Byron’s question: what did you build this for, and is it delivering that? 

If the answer is no, the system is the fix. And the system is learnable. 

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/60-Hour-Weeks-for-25-Years–Then-10-Hours-a-Week–Then-an-8-Figure-Exit–Byron-Darlison-e3l82cf 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/37865c02-70d7-42ff-a027-d45158fff0c8/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-60-hour-weeks-for-25-years-then-10-hours-a-week-then-an-8-figure-exit-byron-darlison

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/60-hour-weeks-for-25-years-then-10-hours-a-week/id1100488294?i=1000774184213

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/podcast/60-Hour-Weeks-for-25-Years-Then-10-Hours-a-Week-Then-an-8-Figure-Exit-Byron-Darlison/B0H6MTFLX3?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Final Thoughts 

Every guest on TAFI is here because they have done something worth studying. Milena Simsic did it faster, younger, and with less of a head start than most. Pay attention to the pattern, not just the result.

Disclaimer: 

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies discussed are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence. 


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

The guy who negotiated a hall pass to go all-in on AI 

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: June 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Mike Schwarz, founder and CEO of MyZone AI, a Vancouver-based AI solutions company.

Most people add AI to their workflow slowly.

They try ChatGPT for a week, find a few uses, and move on. 

Mike Schwarz went another direction. The founder and CEO of MyZone AI, based in Vancouver, negotiated a hall pass from his wife, adjusted his medication to sustain the hours, and spent 3 to 4 months working from the time his family went to sleep until 2, 3, and sometimes 4 in the morning. 

The goal was to go all-in on AI agents. What he built: more than 200 autonomous agents running across 7 divisions of his business. 

Schwarz has 25 years in technology. He was building social networks in 1999, before Friendster and MySpace existed and he founded MyZone in 2000 as a web development studio. Schwarz has watched the dot com boom, the mobile transition, social media, and e-commerce. And he says this transition is different. 

“I’m measuring the window in months,” he said on a recent episode of The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians. “Not years.” 

What is AI, actually 

Schwarz breaks it down simply. AI is a learning system that has been developing since the 1960s and 1970s, built on the idea that a machine can be trained to recognize patterns and predict outcomes. The early versions were basic: is this a cat? Yes or no. Each correct answer reinforced the model. Over millions of repetitions, it got good at predicting. 

The breakthrough moment that most people experienced was November 2022 when ChatGPT went public. But underneath, the technology had been building for decades. TikTok and Instagram feeds were early AI. GPS systems used basic machine learning. Search autocomplete was an early form of prediction. 

The version most people use today, a chatbot interface, is just one way to access the intelligence inside these models. Schwarz calls it a harness. It is a window into something much larger. 

What is an agent, and why it’s different from ChatGPT 

Most people think of AI as a conversation. You type something, it responds. One request, one reply. 

An agent is different. Agents are designed for long-running autonomous tasks. You give them an objective: book me a flight, go through my inbox, reorganize my project management system. And they work toward that objective without needing step-by-step direction. 

Schwarz describes the difference as how long they can run and whether they can make decisions on their own within defined guardrails. 

His first real agent moment happened while preparing for a conference in Montreal. Claude Cowork had just launched the night before. He tested it by asking it to open his browser, go through his LinkedIn, and categorize his 183 unread messages. He left it running and came back 5 minutes later. It had sorted all 183 messages into categories and drafted responses for each one. He gave it some context about his relationships and told it to go ahead. Within 30 minutes, it had replied to every message except the 19 personal ones, which it had starred for him. 

“I built a math game for my son in an hour,” he said. “Confetti, sound effects, an iPhone lockbox. He couldn’t get his screen time until he finished the exercise. He loved it.” 

Why legacy software companies are struggling 

Adobe, SAP, Oracle, and other major SaaS companies have seen their stock prices fall 50 to 60 percent over the past year. Schwarz has a theory about why. 

The public narrative is that AI means smaller teams, which means fewer software licenses. Schwarz doesn’t buy that as the full story. His view: every business will eventually run its own custom software, built and maintained by agents. A custom CRM. Custom task management. Custom accounting. The future he sees is full ownership of software and data, not subscription to someone else’s platform. 

“Every business built below this new operating system is essentially obsolete, they just haven’t realized it yet.”

Browser control vs. API connections: the speed and cost difference 

When people see AI agents demonstrated for the first time, they often see browser control: an agent moving a cursor, clicking through a website, doing what a human would do manually. 

Schwarz says browser control is the last resort. It is slow, expensive, and uses a lot of tokens (the unit of cost for AI model usage). The faster, cheaper option is an API connection: a direct plug into the software’s back end. Same task: an hour via browser control versus 4 minutes via API, at roughly 1/50th the cost. 

He pointed out that 99% of software has a public API. For business owners wondering if their existing tools can be automated, the answer is almost certainly yes. 

Where non-developers should start 

For anyone with no technical background, Schwarz recommends starting with Claude Cowork. It is a safe playground that doesn’t require coding. For those with some technical ambition, Claude Code is another entry point. For building websites and simple software, Lovable is the most accessible tool in that space. 

He makes an important distinction between vibe coding and agentic development. Vibe coding, a term coined by AI researcher Andrej Karpathy, means telling an AI to build something and letting it do whatever it wants. The results can look impressive but are often fragile, insecure, or hard to maintain. 

Agentic development follows the same discipline as traditional software development: requirements, scoping, quality assurance. The difference is that a non-developer can now navigate this process with the right tools and agents. The coding is abstracted away. The thinking required is architectural and systemic, not syntactical. 

“Any entrepreneur who has experience with systems and processes is already learning the skills they need to be an agentic leader,” Schwarz said. “The software developers are having to learn completely new skills. The architects are laughing.” 

The 3 biggest mistakes businesses make adopting AI 

Schwarz has coached hundreds of business leaders through AI adoption. He sees the same mistakes repeatedly. 

The first is dismissal. Treating AI as a chatbot that hallucinates and makes mistakes, and stopping there. He estimates roughly 42% of Canadian employees are actively working against AI adoption in their organizations. Many leaders share the same instinct. The result is that companies fall further behind while their competitors build a structural advantage. 

The second is moving too fast with too big an idea. Coming in with a plan to automate 80% of customer support in the first month triggers what Schwarz calls the immune system of a company. Culture pushes back. Change management collapses. 

His recommendation: start with small, quick wins that have high ROI and visible impact. Those wins build the internal case for further adoption. 

The third mistake is ignoring shadow AI. If a company has no official AI tools and no AI policy, employees are already using free consumer versions without anyone knowing. Free plans mean data is being shared with the AI provider. Client information, internal strategies, proprietary processes are leaving the building every day. “If you don’t have an official plan, they’re paying with your data,” Schwarz said. 

How AI is changing education 

Schwarz pulled his son out of school for a full year when AI began accelerating in 2023. He was building what he describes as a private AI school, influenced by models like Alpha School, which claims to deliver the core curriculum in 2 to 3 hours a day using adaptive AI instruction. 

The key, he says, is hyperpersonalization. When AI instruction adapts to a child’s learning level, pace, and interests in real time, retention improves by 5 to 10 times compared to traditional classroom instruction. His example: teaching fractions using baking ratios for a child who loves to bake. The same math concepts, anchored to something the child already cares about. 

Sal Khan, founder of Khan Academy, wrote a book on this topic called Brave New Words. Schwarz recommends it for anyone thinking seriously about AI in education. 

The one thing 

At the end of every episode, Erwin asks his guests for the one thing a listener should do this weekend. 

Schwarz’s answer: master the art of learning. 

“It’s not about being technical. It’s about being a sponge. Being adaptive. Being flexible. That is the skill.” 

His method: consistent, scheduled repetitions in short sessions. 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes before bed. The same principle he used to go from a C minus to an A student in university. Small daily exposure keeps the brain processing in the background. The learning compounds. 

“You’re not going to the gym on Friday for 12 hours,” he said. “You need a consistent schedule. Measure it. Build on it.” 

Where to find Mike Schwarz 

Mike Schwarz runs free monthly workshops at myzone.ai. Upcoming sessions include a workshop on becoming an agentic developer without coding experience (July 9). All previous workshop recordings, transcripts, and slides are available free on his website. 

Quick Answers 

What is the difference between an AI chatbot and an AI agent? 

A chatbot handles one request at a time and waits for your next input. An agent can be given an objective and work toward it independently over a longer period, making decisions along the way within defined limits. Agents can use tools, access external systems, and complete multi-step tasks without hand-holding. 

Do I need to know how to code to use AI agents? 

No. Mike Schwarz recommends Claude Cowork as a starting point for non-developers. Agentic development, which is building more complex automated systems, can also be learned without writing code. The skills required are more architectural: understanding processes, defining requirements, and directing agents toward outcomes. 

What is shadow AI? 

Shadow AI refers to AI tools that employees use without company knowledge or approval. Because free AI plans often share user data with the AI provider, employees using these tools on personal accounts may unknowingly expose company information. A formal AI policy and approved tools prevent this. 

What is vibe coding, and why is it risky? 

Vibe coding means telling an AI to build something and accepting whatever it produces without following a structured development process. The results can look functional but may contain security vulnerabilities, expose private data, or break when updated. Agentic development follows the same quality assurance steps as traditional software development, just without the coding. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above. It’s hybrid: in-person at the iWIN office in Oakville, or join on Zoom from anywhere.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday June 27, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday July 7, Zoom only — 8:00pm ET

To Listen

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/A-Hall-Pass-to-Go-All-In-and-Build-200-AI-Agents-Across-7-Divisions—Mike-Schwarz–MyZone-AI-e3l10oe  

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/507ba1e2-424a-4d94-a7fc-6293b6043b47/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-a-hall-pass-to-go-all-in-and-build-200-ai-agents-across-7-divisions—mike-schwarz-myzone-ai

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/a-hall-pass-to-go-all-in-and-build-200-ai-agents/id1100488294?i=1000773727077

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0H6B7MCYV?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Final Thoughts 

Every guest on TAFI is here because they have done something worth studying. Milena Simsic did it faster, younger, and with less of a head start than most. Pay attention to the pattern, not just the result.

Disclaimer: 

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies discussed are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence. 


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

From Factory Worker to $300K Realtor: Milena Simsic on Windsor Real Estate, AI-Powered Marketing, and Building Wealth Without Landlord Headaches 

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: June 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guest: Milena Simsic, Founder, WindSocial Realty; Publisher, Windsor Real Estate Insider; Host, Windsor REI Social 

Milena Simsic made $300,000 in commissions in her first year as a realtor. She had no prior real estate connections, no social media following, and no marketing budget. What she had was a willingness to show up on TikTok and Instagram before anyone else in her market was doing it, and a formula she figured out in public. 

Three and a half years later, she runs Windsor’s most recognized investor-focused real estate team, publishes a newsletter with over 9,000 subscribers, and hosts a real estate investor community of 3,000 members that fills rooms with 100 to 200 people twice a year. She has also replaced her virtual assistant with Claude AI, built her CRM systems in an afternoon, and is now teaching other realtors how to do the same. 

This is an episode about what financial independence actually looks like when you build it from scratch, in a mid-sized Canadian city, with no inherited advantages. It is also, quietly, one of the clearest illustrations of why TAFI rebranded: the path out of the rat race does not always run through a rental property. 

The Windsor Market Right Now: What Is Holding and What Is Not 

Windsor has always been the most affordable large city in Ontario, and that affordability has acted as a cushion during the broader Canadian real estate correction. According to Milena, single-family homes in Windsor have held relatively steady because demand for primary residences has not collapsed the way it has in markets dependent on investors or short-term renters. 

The segments that have softened are student rentals and multi-unit investment properties. The immigration policy shifts of 2024 and 2025 hit student rental demand directly, and investment properties have followed. But for anyone buying a single-family home in Windsor, the fundamentals remain intact: low vacancy rates, a growing population, and a cost base that cannot be matched anywhere else in Ontario at the same level of amenity. 

Milena made the comparison plainly: for an investor deciding between a Toronto condo and a Windsor house right now, she said the Toronto condo has really tanked. The Windsor house, by contrast, still has a tenant market and a price point that works. 

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The Growth Drivers: EV Plant, Gordy Howe Bridge, and a Billion-Dollar Downtown 

Windsor’s economic story in 2026 is being written by 3 major developments. The EV battery plant is now operational and has brought thousands of jobs and thousands of new residents into the city. Traffic, which was always a non-issue in Windsor, has become a mild inconvenience, which Milena describes as a good problem to have. 

The Gordy Howe International Bridge, which was expected to open in March 2026, has been delayed by political interference from the U.S. side. The delay has created uncertainty, but the bridge remains a long-term economic catalyst for cross-border movement and commerce. 

The third driver is a billion-dollar downtown redevelopment announced by Farhee Development, with a major build expected to break ground in 2026. For a city the size of Windsor, a billion-dollar downtown investment is transformative. Milena notes that the timeline depends on when the developer wants to start, but the project is committed. 

$300K in Year One: How She Did It With No Connections and No Prior Social Media 

When Milena entered real estate, she made a decision that most new agents do not make: she treated the business like a marketing operation from day one. She had never used social media personally before getting her license, had no following, no network in real estate, and no referral base. 

She went on TikTok and started posting Windsor real estate content before anyone else in her market was doing it consistently. By the end of her first year, she had made $300,000 in commissions, entirely from TikTok and Instagram leads. More than half her clientele came from the Greater Toronto Area, drawn to Windsor by the price differential and guided to her by the content she was publishing. 

She attributes the result to spotting where the highest-leverage play was and going all in before the market caught up. The same logic has since driven her into AI. When she saw what AI could do for her business, she moved before most of her peers understood what they were looking at. 

Windsor Real Estate Insider: From a Client Resource to 9,000 Subscribers 

The Windsor Real Estate Insider started as a private resource for Milena’s clients, a document she called the Windsor Price Guide that helped investors understand the local market. The response from clients was strong enough that she decided to turn it into a proper publication. 

Since launching the magazine last year, it has grown to over 9,000 subscribers, all organic, with no paid acquisition. When you search Windsor real estate on Instagram or TikTok, Milena is the first result. The newsletter feeds from that visibility, and the visibility feeds from the newsletter. The two surfaces compound each other. 

Windsor REI Social, her investor community, operates on a similar logic. It began as monthly meetups that were drawing 30 to 70 people. She eventually moved to a biannual format and the events now draw 100 to 200 attendees, with guests traveling from outside Windsor including Toronto. 

Replacing a Virtual Assistant With Claude AI: What She Built and How Long It Took 

Milena’s AI implementation story is one of the most concrete in the episode. She was on the verge of hiring a second virtual assistant to handle CRM management, client responses, and backend administrative tasks. Instead, she set up Claude AI using the Cowork desktop tool and replicated the systems her VA had been running. 

The result was faster turnaround, higher accuracy, and a significantly lower cost than any human hire she could have made. She notes that she did not need any coding experience to build the systems. She wrote out the processes the way she would have written them for a human assistant, step by step, and Claude ran them. 

Her assessment of the competitive implications is direct: the top agents that implement AI are going to absorb all the business because no unassisted agent can compete with the response time and output volume that AI enables. She is now building a community for realtors who want to learn how to do what she did. 

EXP to Real: Why She Switched and What It Means for Realtors Choosing a Brokerage 

Milena announced on the show that she is leaving EXP for Real, an online brokerage that she describes as more focused on agent quality and community than on recruitment volume. Her critique of EXP is specific: many of the top earners in the EXP structure have never completed a real estate transaction. They joined to recruit, not to sell. 

Real, she says, actively discourages the pyramid recruitment dynamic and instead focuses on building a quality agent community. For Milena, the brokerage is primarily a platform to operate her own brand underneath. She does not believe the brokerage matters much to an agent’s success in terms of leads or training, but she values the culture and cost structure at Real over what she had at EXP. 

The Health Crisis That Doubled Her Business 

Two years ago, Milena developed thyroid issues she attributes in part to the stress of her first years in real estate, which coincided with a market peak and then a correction, all while she was working 40 to 60 hour weeks. She describes reaching a point where her health was failing and she recognized she was the bottleneck in her own business. 

The pivot started with salsa dancing, which she took up to feel better in her body after the autoimmune diagnosis. It cascaded from there into improved diet, therapy, changes in her sleep and work structure, and a recognition that working smarter and being present was more productive than grinding more hours. Since making those changes, her business has more than doubled. 

She entered the Windsor pageant a second time in 2026, roughly 3 years after her first attempt in which she did not place. This time she placed first runner up. She frames the second attempt as a personal milestone to close the chapter from 3 years ago and measure how far she had come. 

Advice for Young Canadians: Build Your Skill Set, Buy a Business, Stop Making Excuses 

In the closing exchange, Milena’s advice for young Canadians under economic pressure is blunt and specific. Build your skill set. Learn continuously. If you can, find a way to acquire or start a business, because employment is becoming less reliable as AI and economic shifts reduce traditional job availability. 

She notes the irony that while the economic environment is genuinely harder for young people, it has also never been cheaper or easier to acquire skills, start a business, or find a mentor. AI gives anyone access to expertise that previously required expensive professional services. The resources exist. The excuses are running out. 

On the business acquisition side, she endorses the vendor take-back financing model, noting that a significant proportion of businesses listed for sale are prepared to offer seller financing, making zero-down acquisition genuinely possible for a prepared buyer. 

Quick Answers 

What market does Milena Simsic specialize in? 

Windsor, Ontario. She focuses primarily on investor clients, more than half of whom come from the Greater Toronto Area. 

How did Milena make $300K in her first year as a realtor? 

Entirely through TikTok and Instagram content. She started posting Windsor real estate market content before any other agent in her market was doing it consistently, and built her lead pipeline from those platforms with no prior social media experience. 

Is Windsor real estate a good investment in 2026? 

Milena’s view is that single-family homes in Windsor have held up well. She says the Toronto condo has been harder hit than the Windsor house. Windsor has low vacancy rates, a growing population, and major economic development underway including an operational EV plant and a billion-dollar downtown redevelopment. 

What is Windsor REI Social? 

A real estate investor community of 3,000 members that Milena runs in Windsor. It hosts biannual events drawing 100 to 200 attendees, with speakers and networking focused on Windsor and southern Ontario real estate investing. 

How is Milena using AI in her real estate business? 

She replaced her virtual assistant with Claude AI using the Cowork desktop tool, which now handles CRM tasks, client responses, and backend administration. She built the systems herself in an afternoon with no coding experience. 

Why is Milena switching from EXP to Real? 

She says EXP’s culture prioritizes recruitment over agent quality, with many top earners having never completed a real estate transaction. Real actively discourages that dynamic and focuses on community and agent development instead. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above. It’s hybrid: in-person at the iWIN office in Oakville, or join on Zoom from anywhere.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday June 27, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday July 7, Zoom only — 8:00pm ET

The Bottom Line 

Milena Simsic did not start with a network, a marketing budget, or a family in real estate. She started with a willingness to show up consistently in public before anyone else in her market understood why that mattered. That instinct, which she applied first to TikTok and then to AI, is what separates her story from a hundred other first-year realtor stories. 

What makes this episode particularly relevant for the TAFI audience is the portability of the model. Milena is not a real estate investor in the traditional sense. She is a business builder who happened to start in real estate. The leverage she used was not bank financing on a rental property. It was audience leverage, technology leverage, and the compounding effect of publishing consistently over time. Those tools are available to anyone. 

For investors who are tired of the LTB, tired of rent control, and tired of carrying properties that no longer cash flow, Milena’s arc is a useful reminder that the rat race has more than one exit. 

On Spotify: creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/From-Factory-Worker-to-300K-Realtor–Milena-Si… 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/897f73b2-6d14-46d0-ab11-1ba2ab39a0f3/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-from-factory-worker-to-300k-realtor-milena-simsic

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/from-factory-worker-to-%24300k-realtor-milena-simsic/id1100488294?i=1000772208538

Audible: https://www.audible.ca/pd/B0H4VX8QJV?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Final Thoughts 

Every guest on TAFI is here because they have done something worth studying. Milena Simsic did it faster, younger, and with less of a head start than most. Pay attention to the pattern, not just the result.

Disclaimer: 

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies discussed are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence. 


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.

Buying a Boomer’s Business: Ming Lim and Bryan Ma on Acquiring a 25-Year-Old Bookkeeping Firm, Vendor Take-Backs, and the Great Wealth Transfer 

By Erwin Szeto | Co-Founder, iWIN Wealth Planning 

Recorded: June 2026 

Host: Erwin Szeto, The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians 

Guests: Ming Lim, Managing Partner of Volition Properties and Co-Owner of AccounTrain; Bryan Ma, CPA, CFA, MBA, Co-Owner of AccounTrain 

Ontario real estate investing is in a different place than it was three years ago.

Rent control, slowed appreciation, rising costs, and a Landlord and Tenant Board backlog that can stretch eviction timelines past a year have changed the economics for active operators. The investors who used to add another door to their portfolio every 12 months are now asking a different question: if not more rentals, then what? 

In this episode of The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians, Erwin sits down with Ming Lim and Bryan Ma, two friends who became business partners in January 2026 when they acquired AccounTrain, a 25-year-old bookkeeping firm based in Ottawa with clients across Canada. They beat out 5 other offers, paid 1.3 times annual revenue and they spent almost 2 years searching for the right deal. 

About Ming Lim and Bryan Ma

Ming is the managing partner of Volition Properties, where his team has helped Canadians transact on more than $300 million in Toronto investment real estate. Bryan spent 20 years in Canadian financial services as a CPA, CFA, and MBA, with most of his recent work in mergers and acquisitions at Intact Insurance. Their conversation is a real-world picture of what buying a small business from a retiring boomer actually looks like for Canadian investors who have already built equity in real estate. 

Why Active Real Estate Operators Are Looking at Small Business Acquisition 

Ming has been investing in Toronto real estate since 2015. He has seen the market shift from one where adding more doors was the obvious move to one where the math demands a harder look. His team at Volition Properties has remained active, but he has spent the last 2 years exploring what comes next. 

Bryan came at the question from a different angle. After 20 years in financial services, including roles at 3 of the largest professional services firms in Canada and most recently at Intact Insurance, he reached a moment of clarity that anyone in corporate finance will recognize. As he tells Erwin during the episode, he was doing 80-hour weeks on M&A files when he realized he had stopped enjoying the work. 

The two had known each other for years before deciding to partner up. The thesis they landed on is one that has been gaining traction quietly in Canadian operator circles for the last 5 years: the great wealth transfer. Baby boomers built thousands of small Canadian businesses over the last 40 years, many of them profitable, durable, and unsexy. They are now reaching retirement age without succession plans. The opportunity is enormous, but it is also harder than it looks. 

How They Found AccounTrain 

Ming and Bryan spent close to 2 years looking before they found the right business. They worked through several channels: a buy-side community called Village Wealth, business brokers including Poe Group (which specializes in accounting firms), and direct outreach to owners of businesses that fit their criteria. 

They tell Erwin the market is more competitive than most outside observers realize. Quality businesses with clean books and stable cash flow are often gone within 24 to 48 hours of listing. Buyers submit offers on businesses they have only partially reviewed, knowing they will lose the deal if they wait for full due diligence. Ming and Bryan estimate they looked at 1 to 2 businesses per day for almost a year before AccounTrain came up. 

AccounTrain itself was sourced through Poe Group. The firm had been in business for 25 years, founded and run by a single operator who was approaching retirement. Initial interest came from 15 to 18 parties. By the time the bid deadline closed, there were 5 serious offers. Ming and Bryan’s offer was selected, they believe, partly because of Bryan’s M&A background, which signalled to the seller that the buyers understood the process and would be reliable to close. 

Why Bookkeeping, Not a Full Accounting Practice 

One of the most useful threads in the conversation is the deliberate decision to buy a bookkeeping firm rather than a full accounting practice. Most investors looking at the professional services space assume the bigger prize is an accounting firm with CPAs on staff, tax preparation engagements, and audit work. 

Ming and Bryan went the other direction for a reason. Bookkeeping has fewer regulatory requirements. The owner does not need to be a CPA. The work is more systems-driven and less personality-driven, which means the business is less dependent on any single employee or partner. Pricing is more predictable. And the client relationship is recurring, which produces stable monthly revenue rather than the seasonal spikes accounting firms see around tax season. 

The tradeoff is that bookkeeping firms typically sell at lower multiples than accounting firms. But Ming and Bryan argue that the lower entry price and the simpler operating model more than offset the lower exit multiple, especially for buyers who plan to hold and modernize rather than flip. 

The Math of Buying a Bookkeeping Firm 

Bookkeeping firms in Canada generally trade in a range of 1.2 to 2.5 times annual revenue. Where a specific firm lands within that range depends on several factors: client concentration, recurring versus one-time revenue mix, geographic distribution, technology stack, owner involvement, and the quality of the books themselves. 

AccounTrain had approximately $1 million in annual revenue at the time of sale. Ming and Bryan paid 1.3 times revenue, putting the purchase price at approximately $1.3 million. They consider this on the low end of the range, in part because the firm was owner-operated with limited systems documentation, in part because the buyer pool was thinner than for a larger or more institutional firm. 

The deal structure included a vendor take-back component, which Ming and Bryan describe as standard in business sales but uncommon in Canadian residential real estate. They paid a portion of the purchase price at closing, with the seller financing the balance over a defined term. The vendor take-back also functioned as a structural commitment from the seller to remain available during the transition period, which became important given how much institutional knowledge needed to transfer. 

The Vendor Take-Back Mortgage as Industry Standard 

One of the most counterintuitive points in the episode is how common vendor take-back financing is in business sales compared to residential real estate. In real estate, vendor take-backs are seen as a creative financing tool used in soft markets or for difficult-to-finance properties. In small business sales, they are the default. 

The logic is simple. The seller knows the business better than the buyer ever will. A vendor take-back keeps the seller’s interests aligned with the buyer’s success during the critical transition period. If the business deteriorates after closing, the seller’s outstanding balance is at risk. That gives sellers an economic reason to stay engaged, answer questions, and help transfer relationships. 

For active real estate investors looking at business acquisition for the first time, this is a meaningful structural shift to absorb. The seller is not just exiting. They are partially financing your deal and remaining a stakeholder in the outcome. 

Twenty-Five Years of Knowledge in One Person’s Head 

The previous owner of AccounTrain ran the firm for 25 years. By Ming and Bryan’s account, much of what made the business work was stored not in systems but in her memory. Client preferences, filing deadlines specific to non-profit clients, informal arrangements with longstanding customers, the rhythm of the work itself, all of it lived in one person’s head. 

This is a recurring pattern in boomer-built businesses. The founder is the system. The business runs because the founder remembers everything. When the founder leaves, the institutional knowledge leaves with her unless the buyer captures it in time. 

Ming and Bryan structured the transition period specifically to extract this knowledge. The previous owner is staying on in a transition role for an extended period, working with Ming and Bryan to document client relationships, encode informal processes into formal workflows, and modernize the technology stack. They are building the CRM and workflow management systems the firm never had. By the time the transition is complete, the business will run on systems rather than on memory. 

The Lifestyle Case for a Business Over a Rental Portfolio 

Ming and Bryan are both still active in real estate. Ming continues to run Volition Properties. But they make a specific lifestyle case for the business over more rentals. 

A bookkeeping firm with stable monthly revenue and a small employee base does not call you at 11 p.m. when a pipe bursts. It does not require an LTB filing when a tenant stops paying rent. It does not get hit with a sudden 4-figure repair bill the same month a vacancy opens up. The variance is lower. The hours are more predictable. The work scales through systems and additional staff rather than through Erwin’s 7-day-a-week attention. 

The episode is honest about the tradeoffs. A small business has its own demands, especially during the first 6 to 12 months after acquisition when the new owners are still learning the operation. But for an active real estate investor whose portfolio is consuming evenings and weekends, a bookkeeping firm is often a calmer use of operator energy. 

How to Connect with Ming Lim and Bryan Ma 

To follow Ming and Bryan, visit accountrain.com or connect with them on LinkedIn. Ming’s real estate brokerage is Volition Properties: https://www.volitionprop.com/ 

Quick Answers 

Who are Ming Lim and Bryan Ma? 

Ming Lim is the managing partner of Volition Properties, a Toronto-area real estate brokerage. Bryan Ma is a CPA, CFA, and MBA with 20 years in Canadian financial services. In January 2026 they jointly acquired AccounTrain, a 25-year-old Canadian bookkeeping firm. 

What is AccounTrain? 

AccounTrain is a bookkeeping firm based in Ottawa with clients across Canada. The firm was founded over 25 years ago and was acquired by Ming Lim and Bryan Ma in January 2026. 

How much does a bookkeeping firm cost to buy in Canada? 

Canadian bookkeeping firms typically trade at 1.2 to 2.5 times annual revenue, depending on factors like client concentration, recurring revenue, geography, and the quality of the books. Ming and Bryan paid 1.3 times revenue for AccounTrain, which they describe as the low end of the range. 

What is a vendor take-back mortgage in a business sale? 

A vendor take-back mortgage in a business sale is seller financing for a portion of the purchase price. The buyer pays a portion at closing, and the seller carries the balance as a loan over a defined term. Vendor take-backs are standard in Canadian small business sales because they keep the seller’s interests aligned with the buyer’s success during the transition period. 

Where can you find Canadian small businesses for sale? 

Buyers can source Canadian small businesses through business brokers (such as Poe Group, which specializes in accounting firms), buy-side communities (such as Village Wealth), direct outreach to retiring owners, and industry-specific listing services. The market is competitive, and quality deals can close within 24 to 48 hours of listing. 

Why are some Canadian real estate investors moving to small business acquisition? 

Several forces are pushing active Canadian real estate investors toward small business acquisition: rent control and LTB backlogs have made residential rentals harder to operate, retiring baby boomers are creating a large supply of profitable small businesses for sale, and the lifestyle profile of a small business is often more sustainable than managing a portfolio of rental properties. 

The Bottom Line 

Canadian real estate is not dead. But for active operators, the math that worked in 2018 doesn’t work the same way in 2026. The hours required to manage rentals through rent control and LTB delays have crowded out the time real estate investing was supposed to give back. 

Ming and Bryan are part of a small but growing group of Canadian operators who are pointing at small business acquisition as the answer. Their experience is worth listening to because they are not selling you on it. They tell you exactly what it cost them in time, in cash, and in operator attention. Two years of searching. $1.3 million in capital. A vendor take-back commitment. A multi-month transition period extracting institutional knowledge from a 25-year operator’s memory. 

If you are sitting on Ontario rentals and have started asking yourself what the next 10 years of operator energy should be spent on, this conversation is a real-world picture of one alternative. It is not the only path. But it is one worth understanding before you decide what your next move is. 

Join Me Live: Free Training on the $100,000 Investment Loan Strategy

I’m hosting a free training on the strategy that produced the returns I mentioned above. It’s hybrid: in-person at the iWIN office in Oakville, or join on Zoom from anywhere.

Here is exactly what I will walk through in 90 minutes:

  1. The complete $100,000 investment loan structure
  2. The math — what $433 a month actually buys you over 5 and 10 years
  3. Every loss scenario — what happens when the market drops 20%, 30%, 40%
  4. How this fits alongside, not replacing, a real estate portfolio
  5. Live Q&A — bring your questions, bring your skepticism

Two dates to choose from. Both cover the same content — pick whichever fits your schedule.

Saturday June 27, Hybrid (Oakville + Zoom) — 9:00am ET, hard stop 10:30am. In-person seats are capped at 40 and they always go. If you want to be in the room, register today.

Tuesday July 7, Zoom only — 8:00pm ET

To Listen:

On Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/erwinszeto/episodes/Buying-a-25-Year-Old-Bookkeeping-Firm–Ming-Lim–Bryan-Ma-e3kbo9a 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.ca/podcasts/40fe627d-dec7-4f5d-b7e5-90a550fffe46/episodes/71792264-c2b6-474d-b540-762219a96aee/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma/id1100488294?i=100077131575

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

You’ve Built Wealth. Now It’s Time to Understand It. 

After dozens of consultations, I’ve noticed the same pattern again and again: most investors have built real wealth, but they’re not confident they can retire from it. They’re sitting on $2M–$5M in property but feel cash-flow poor. They’re paying more tax than they should because everything is held in personal names. They have no liquidity, no insurance strategy, and no clear plan for what happens if something happens to them. And almost every single client tells me the same thing: “I don’t actually know what retirement looks like for us.” 

Real estate builds equity, but it doesn’t automatically build freedom. Without a coordinated plan for taxes, income, protection, and exit strategy, investors often end up working harder in retirement than they did in their 30s. That’s why I created the Wealth Freedom Blueprint – a simple, practical guide to help you understand where you stand today, what gaps are costing you money, and how to turn the wealth you’ve built into a life you can actually live. 

Download your free Wealth Freedom Blueprint 

Disclaimer: 

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer. I am also a licensed insurance agent with Open Concept Financial Group. The investment loan strategies discussed are for educational purposes only and are not a guarantee of approval or performance. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Every investor should do their own due diligence. 

Final Thoughts

Whether you’re building wealth, protecting it, or preparing to transition it, you deserve a clear, tax-smart strategy that works in real life. 

That’s what iWIN Wealth Planning is here for. 

This is how we’re creating predictable, stress-free wealth for Canadian families… 
so you can enjoy the life you’re building. 

Book your Wealth Planning Call 


Sponsored by… Me!

This episode isn’t sponsored—except by my wife Cherry and me. Real estate investing is our life. It’s helped us build wealth and achieve peace of mind about retirement and our children’s future.

Till next time—just do it. I believe in you.

Erwin Szeto
W: erwinszeto.com
FB: facebook.com/erwin.szeto
IG: @erwinszeto


Disclaimer

As a committed advocate for transparent and responsible investing, I want to disclose that I am an Advisor to SHARE SFR (Single Family Rental). I hold equity in the company and earn referral commissions from clients I refer.

My endorsement of their model—focusing on positive cash flow and direct ownership—is based on personal experience and belief. Still, every investor should do their own due diligence.